How independent can one be independent?
When we argue on the independent status of a person, he or she should not have a pre conceived agenda.
Being independent is also to be free from political patronage or affiliation.
Certainly those with links to certain politicians, irrespective of the political divide, Pakatan or BN, cannot proclaim to be independent either. In other words that individual should not be partisan at all.
For one Australian senator Nick Xenophon who was deported from Malaysia, cannot fit the independent bill. He is known to have close links with Opposition leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.
He is also biased as far as Malaysia is concerned with his anti-palm oil views, advocating that consummation of the oil could lead to risk of heart disease.
How can Xenophon proclaim himself to be independent when he already has unfavourable views on Malaysia and has an agenda to run down Malaysia’s important palm oil produce.
For the record, Malaysia currently accounts for 39 per cent of the world palm oil production and 44 per cent of world exports.
Being one of the biggest producers and exporters of palm oil and palm oil products, Malaysia has an important role to play in fulfilling the growing global need for oils and fats.
The fact is that palm oil is the backbone of Malaysia’s commodities sector, earning revenue of about RM80bil, and 150 countries are using it in food and non-food products.
In case Anwar is not aware, this miracle oil palm tree puts food on the tables of over half a million workers, mostly in the rural areas where there are few or no alternative employment opportunities.
And for Anwar to invite Xenophon, who spits on our fertile land with venom, is like stabbing oneself with a knife.
Would Anwar be able to find employment for the half a million workers if the palm oil industry goes bust in Malaysia.
Anwar owes Malaysians an explanation. He should explain his reasons for inviting an Australian who wants to put sand in our rice bowl to be an observer in the general election.
Those who open the doors of our nation to enemies should also be condemned for being saboteurs and traitors to the nation.
Anti-palm oil lobbyists are paid handsomely by western NGOs to denounce the expansion of the palm oil industry, blaming it for causing massive deforestation and disturbing the habitat of the orang utan.
But as we all know these NGOs are also heavily funded by producers of soybean, which is a multi billion industry.
One cannot discount the possibility that Xenophon is also on the payroll of these rich NGOs to be an anti-palm oil advocate.
Under the guise of being advocates for issues like human rights, deforestation and unhealthy food products, they would embark on their slanted and distorted crusade to enrich their own pockets or fund their political campaigns.
Xenophon is no angel at all, nor credible at all. He is a bloody liar. He was quoted in the Australian media that his trip to Malaysia to review the country’s electoral system was official.
As it turned out, law minister Mohamed Nazri said that Xenophon was not included in the bipartisan parliamentary delegation invited to meet with Malaysian officials.
If the Aussie senator can lie through his teeth, would his views on Malaysia’s electoral system be credible or honest enough.
Malaysians should wake up to the reality of rejecting the colonisation of our country via political interference by outsiders.
We should rally behind a common platform to stand firm against attempts to recolonise Malaysia and protect our atonomy and sovereignty at all cost.
If at all Xenophon wanted to be among the foreign election observers, he should go to the Election Commission and not embark on an unauthorized crusade or rather masquerade.
We have laws in the country and being a senator Xenophon, there is no excuse of him to simply budge into another country and wanting to dictate what is wrong with our nation.
Of all persons, there is no need for Xenophon to tell us what to do. The Election Commission has already appointed distinguished personnel as observers at the next general election.
Among them are Centre for Public Policy Studies chairman Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, Institute of Democratic and Economic Affairs chief executive officer Wan Saiful Wan Jan, Malaysian Youth Council president Mohamad Maliki Mohd Rapie, Merdeka Center director Ibrahim Suffian and K. Bathmavathi from the Malaysian Confederation of the Disabled.
If we are to allow such political encroachment of foreigners into our shores now, there is no stopping more to come and dictate to Malaysia. We don’t want to end up being puppets for the white masters.
To Xenophon, stopthelies has this to tell you. Go Mind Your Bloody Business. Go and check on your backyard first before you poke your nose in Malaysia.
Conservation of Nature has said that Australia has the highest number of endangered animals in the world. In Australia, two-thirds of original forests have vanished, according to the Granby Zoo website.
What are you doing about that, Xenophon. You should be more worried about what is happening in your own country.
Don’t come and meddle with Malaysia’s internal affairs.
Who is the editor of this website? Why hide behind anonymity if you are so-called publishing the truth?
Says the douchebag, I mean teabag. My bad…
And why the hell are you teabagging your name here? If you have the balls coming in here with a one-liner without knowing head or tails about this blog, you should put your full name and IC numbers.
Otherwise, put your head under your tail and between your legs.
How does that sound as a retort against you? I’d like to distort you, actually, but have to be contented with the laptop screen.
Anon 9.03am…fuck you and your like. Dont act behind a computer. Fucking umno wanker.
is that all you can do ? we pay you 50 sen per comment and this is your handiwork. we are deeply, deeply disappointed. to borrow a phrase from Donald Trump, you’re fired !
No more 50 cts per comment. The Komtar scum master had increased the pay of those scumbags to RM1/- per comment as the GE is very near.
The Tokong had manipulated the arse-digger for some funds and is now giving generously as their foreign and local funds are coming in regularly.
All family members and relatives of bastardized Tokong had suddenly become his troopers as the pay is quite high now. Just for 2 hrs per night, each member of the family can rake in RM200/- to RM 300/-.
ffd,
so……are you going to reveal your identity here too??….I mean since we are talking about not hiding behind computer screens and all……
The editor of this website is a guy named Clerk Kent. I heard he started out as a journalist somewhere, but that was ages ago, and he’s worked his way up since then.
Hahaha, wasn’t that Superman?
If so, he’d fly to Komtar one day and knock the hell out of the 28th floor.
Or knock the 28th Floor out of Komtar.
Or out of Penang completely.
Even out of Malaysia.
Let them reside in Papua New Guinea. On the highland plateau. Where they still practice cannibalism.
SOG,
Not Clerk Kent is the editor of STL…..actually is Chiam Keng…hahahaha
But yeah he was a journalist….but got fed up with lies by Pakatoons…and thus the blog Stop The Lies was born….
his job is to Stop The Lies. other than that its none of your business. get a life boy or else go sell some tea. pui !
Oooooo….Teabag…wat a name…..and sounds so sexual too and it is after all a sexual position……so are you saying Anwar teabags you constantly too??
But since you call for the editor or anyone of us here to not hide….why not start the ball rolling by starting with you first……please fill in the following details below yeah!!
Full name as per I/C:
I/C No:
Address:
Mobile number:
Just fill up and post here yeah!!…Cheers teabag…..just make sure Anwar doesn’t teabag you often….
teabagthis2
Please watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=injgWSdZ1_g
Hahaha your butt is on fire, you’re so upset
Hi Teabag,
You sounded very threatening? Just like Tokong Lim. Are you Tokong Lim in distress?
Let me teach you diplomacy.
Firstly, please find out who invited and sponsored that Australian scum to come and interfere in our politics???
2ndly, do you think that a person will voluntarily come all the way to Malaysia from afar using all his own resourses and time without motive???
3rdly.. Who are the politicians who make the most noise when that Australian is denied entry???
Put in mildly this way….
1. The person or persons who invited that Australian, is a traitor/traitors of our country. You know who.
2. If he voluntarily uses his own resourses and time just to come all the way here without invitation , then he must be the most stupid idiot this century had produced. I don’t think so. Do you ?
3. The people who make the most noise when he was denied entry must be badly and personally “hurt and frustrated” that his/their masterplan had been
dented and backfired.
So now you tell me “WHO ARE THE CROOKS ???”. Look yourself purely in the mirror and ask that question.
” Certainly those with links to certain politicians, irrespective of the political divide, Pakatan or BN, cannot proclaim to be independent either. In other words that individual should not be partisan at all. ”
So do you think the EC chairman should resign since he is a Umno member?
Should Wawa tender his resignation in your opinion?
Why should he?
I think you are confused, or simply, pure stupid.
Says the one liner warrior.
Everyone against you is confused or stupid. Yet, there is none so blind as he who would not see.
so you are one line warrior as well? since you wrote only 1 line at 9.03am.
Cakap tak serupa bikin, pui!!
Question, kiddo, question. You never do contribute to a discussion other than taking potshots & spitting eh? Talking about cakap tak serupa bikin, start with a lot of our democratically elected party leaders will you?
FFC,
Seems that Pakatoons are in overdrive mode as we come to GE13…….Just continue whacking them till they go bye bye…..and trust me come GE13 and they have lost all that they have gained….Pakatoon will cease to exist anymore….afterall how can it possibly exist 3 different parties with different ideologies and ambitions…..is not the same with BN who have the same ideology and ambition which is to move Malaysia forward….and not argue who is gonna be PM and what not…..
So do you think the EC chairman should resign since he is a Umno member?
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I must concur that this argument holds water……hmmmmm
I find it delectably funny that pro opposition personalities can be professional in discharging their duties & yet the same professionalism is inherently absent in those opposed to them, in their opinion as a matter of fact.
they are very diligent when it comes to discharging shit. just go to Mkini, MCronic etc
You stupid or what. EC Chairman is not an UMNO member. He made that very clear. And you must be really stupid to think that UMNO is stupid to appoint somebody from the party to a position that would make the Butt man the happiest person in the world – better than seeing 72 boys butts and and China women lined up front and back
linpehkong says:
February 22, 2013 at 11:13 am
You stupid or what. EC Chairman is not an UMNO member. He made that very clear. And you must be really stupid to think that UMNO is stupid to appoint somebody from the party to a position
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Ahaaa! This is interesting…which is which..but since that fella announced he is not UMNO member, case closed i supposed. Let’s go on to the funny name guy called Xenophone….as if there isn’t much shit in Australia. We have learnt from history that be careful with “outsiders” for they will bring more harm than good. Even those Malaysians that have been too long in USA for example….don’t really understand whats happening on the ground here.
Actually, the accusation that he’s an UMNO member is false. Somebody aged 65 in Kelantan had the same name as he…Wan something. And that Wan is an UMNO member.
I have a school buddy named Anwar bin Ibrahim, he’s not gay though. A really nice guy but…since the DSAI sodomy case he became the butt of people’s jokes. He’s always upset about that.
Sure or no he is umno member
Woi bangang! Ini isu basi laaa, kau faham tak? Fakta pun salah, ada hati nak cuba tipu orang? Ptuih!
If you have facts, put up la…don’t ludah ludah here….
what ? you’re from which planet ? the EC chairman has said so many times that he is not an UMNO member. you smoke weed ?
No he did not smoke weed – he is the illegitimate child from one of butt man’s spewing into the wrong hole. Mentally challenged
Anwar should resign too, he was an UMNO member. And like Chua Jui Meng, any second-hand cigarettes are bad.
who is dis 8.30am scumbag?
Xenophon. Go back to Athens where you came from. The Greeks need you. Not Malaysia.
OIC this fella originated from a bankrupt country. Why not rendered his service for the betterment of his home country. Did he got paid by our Fuckatan politicians to create so much ruckus about our palm oil industry and election commission?
Immigration Department is making a right decision by deporting him. An alien who fight for the destruction of our palm oils industry; our people well being and the image of our country
I like this Australian article in http://gonzomeetsthepress.com/2013/02/20/nick-xenophon-hes-no-xenophobe/, with the heading Nick Xenophon: He’s no xenophobe! I’m going to labour on it for a bit. (I like those words “for a bit” that CNN Christian Amanpour uses, though she talks a lot! But often she talks sense, unlike this Xenophone bloke)
The article quoted Malaysian authorities saying he was a prohibited migrant who took part in illegal activities on his last visit to Malaysia in 2012. Photo of him being tear-gassed – http://bit.ly/W8PD8N
Then the article quoted the foreign editor of the newspaper The Australian, Greg Sheridan, who wrote: “Nick Xenophon’s actions regarding Malaysia are either foolish or cynically self-promoting in a year in which he faces re-election.” He went on to praise Malaysia as “one of the most democratic and freewheeling nations” in Southeast Asia: “Indeed, its very openness allows people such as Xenophon to grandstand there.” http://bit.ly/WE0hqr
I like this fact that there are sane and rational minded Auustralians who whack the Xenophone bugger. Grandstanding, he said. Just like Anwar Al Juburi often does.
Wah, my comment quoting an Australian blog does not appear each time I submit? Testing, testing …
I like this Australian article in //gonzomeetsthepress.com/2013/02/20/nick-xenophon-hes-no-xenophobe/, with the heading Nick Xenophon: He’s no xenophobe! I’m going to labour on it for a bit. (I like those words “for a bit” that CNN Christian Amanpour uses, though she talks a lot!)
The article quoted Malaysian authorities saying he was a prohibited migrant who took part in illegal activities on his last visit to Malaysia in 2012. Photo of him being tear-gassed – //bit.ly/W8PD8N
Then the article quoted the foreign editor of the newspaper The Australian, Greg Sheridan, who wrote: “Nick Xenophon’s actions regarding Malaysia are either foolish or cynically self-promoting in a year in which he faces re-election.” He went on to praise Malaysia as “one of the most democratic and freewheeling nations” in Southeast Asia: “Indeed, its very openness allows people such as Xenophon to grandstand there.” //bit.ly/WE0hqr
I like this fact that there are sane and rational minded Auustralians who whack the Xenophone bugger. Grandstanding, he said. Just like Anwar Al Juburi often does.
NB: If this comment comes out this time, the reason must be my including the “http” previously – some one told me the auto censor disallows that.
This Xenephon guy is just playing politics. It is election time in Australia and this is part of his efforts to show to his people that he care more about international events, be it right or wrong even though the people in South Australia are not so happy. He is elected by his people to serve them only.
He is not suppose to do what he did. He broke the laws. He came in as a tourist but took part in the political process. He came in quietly, sniff around, gather information and then go back and condemn Malaysia. Of course, all these cannot be done without inside help from Malaysia, in this case our Buttman.
We are trying to lobby palm oil in US and rest of the world that palm oil is good and is better than peanut or sunflower seed oil. It is in fact good for health but you have this guy go around condemning palm oil.
Then it is an unofficial visit as quoted by the current Australian Foreign Minister but this guy said it is official but did not go through diplomatic channel. Best part is he travel by Air Asia. To counter his critics in South Australia that what is he doing in Malaysia, he said he used his study leave to come here.
STL, no need to waste time on this guy…he is just a opportunist, finding faults with malaysia and blared it loud to show his voters back home that he is concerned over world politics.
I wouldn’t mind going to Australia and protest against him and asking Australians to vote for his opponent’s party. He is afterall having his elections too very soon.
Lets see if he gets elected the next time his election comes around. And one should check if he abused his campaign funds and bribe the people in his area to vote for him.
do a background check. see if The Butt Man is involved in funding his election campaign. after all, The Butt Man himself has RM3 billion in overseas bank accounts.
That reporter in the blog I quoted earlier asked Xenophon about the grandstanding charge: “It’s ridiculous. The plan was for me to go there and keep my mouth shut. If I were allowed into the city, it would have been a short visit and we would have written a report for Parliament. The only media coverage would have been an interview with Mal Washer by Jim Middleton for Asia Pacific. “
Bullshit him. Pretending he doesn’t know that the mere presence of an Australian Senator descendant of convicts interfering in the internal affairs of this country won’t attract local and international media attention.
Reference was made to Australia having a role in another country’s elections without a specific request from their government like Myanmar, Timor and Fiji. And the Xenophone bloke said, “It’s quite right for us to see what’s going on in Malaysia and we should help if the opposition asks us to do so. We can’t ignore them.”
Bloody hell, Myanmar has not held proper elections for ages, Timor and Fiji are new democracies. WTF he compares those countries to Malaysia which has had elections every 4-5 years in the last 55 years.
And we have been having properly accredited foreign observers, too. Not the descended-from-convicts kind.
teabag = handbag (gay)
opsss
Cucuh air up and down….
Down and up
Then drink…
Xenophon and Danby (another Senator?) said that an international observer group which visited Malaysia last April “concluded there were legitimate concerns about the country’s democracy: massive gerrymandering, electoral roll fraud, and intimidation of voters.”
What international observer group? Who says the concerns were legitimate? What standards were they using? What gerrymandering? What intimidation of voters etc? Cock and bull story.
They said Amnesty International has accused Malaysian authorities of harassing and intimidating Suaram, one of the country’s leading human rights groups. Amnesty International itself has a problem of credibility. Unabble to notice the flagrant violation fo human rights of others being accused by Suaram and the like.
And not seeing the very clear lies of people like Kua Ka Soong who went to France lying to the media about the existence of a court case on the so-called Scorpene purchase commission. Until the denial by one French Public Prosecutor in KL for an anti-corruption conference shamed him into silence.
well, well. The Butt Man was salivating when he heard that Nick was on his way to Malaysia. the look on his face says it all, until news that Nick was denied ENTRY ! denied ENTRY ! that spells it all for The Butt Man. he himself was salivating at the prospect on ENTERING the NICK but Nick was denied ENTRY ! L O L ! he was preparing for Nick’s ENTRY when the Immigration Dept revealed that Nick’s on a list of people not welcomed in Malaysia. this is indeed revealing. all this while we thought that The Butt Man was, is in the business of entering people’s backsides, yet in this case, The Butt Man himself is also in the business of allowing men to ENTER his ROOM through a DOOR. there’s now even talk that The Butt Man dons wigs when he’s out on his sexcapades. what else is The Butt Man hiding from us ? and where is he hiding them ?
The blardy bastak talked about “Anwar Ibrahim spent six years in solitary confinement on false charges of sodomy and corruption”
Was he really on “solitary confinement”? Wasn’t he an ordinary prisoner in Sg Buluh, given the privilege of being in charge of the Library and spending his time in cool air-conditioned comfort?
And the fellow said, “I was quite shocked by the way he was treated: solitary confinement and trumped up charges.”
What trumped up charges is the bugger talking? This descendant of convicts does not have any respect for Malaysian courts. The bloke Anwar was given the chance to defend himself right to the highest court of the land. His Appeal was allowed only on technical grounds. But the Judges had it recorded that he did sodomize.
Then he said, “I told him ‘I promise you we will send an MP to monitor your trial.’ When no one else was available, I put my hand up.”
See, no one else put up their hands up. The bugger was alone in supporting the Al Juburi. Whether he is the same Juburi kind or has some financial gains out of this is being highly suspected. He came not on any Australian Senate business, and who paid his airplane, hotel and food expenses? The motive may be more than just grandstanding. Could well be standing behind Anwar or in front. Whichever one or the other chooses.
Australians of English, British descent are the descendants of convicts. as for this Nick, someone earlier commented that he’s of Greek descent. so in this case he’s not a descendant of convicts. probably he’s a descendants of Greeks who under the Ottoman Turks were made to work, live like peasants so until this very day, he harbors grudges against Muslims. that’s why he takes advantage of every opportunity to attack Malaysia since Malaysia is a Muslim majority country.
Point taken. His name also is funny. Maybe Greek sounding.
They say what went round must come around. Greece was originally uncivilized, then the Athenian Empire was highly civilized, then uncivilized again and Greece is not known in the world now except for ancient monuments and relics of antiquity.
The Xenophone species emerged at the lowest ebb of Greek “uncivilization”. That’s why cabut to Australia to cari makan. Now want to kacau daun in Malaysia. Aku kasi dia makan ta’un baru tau. The plague, the plague, he’d cry scuttering out of Malaysia, haha.
Lol, when in jail, Anwar even got handphones smuggled in too. He lived in a really good conditioned prison cell. He could stay there forever, but then his revenge’ll get the better of him
Read this. it is happening in Australia.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/teachers-at-islamic-college-of-south-australias-west-croydon-campus-ordered-to-wear-hijab-or-face-sack/story-e6freon6-1226575723406.
Lets see if that xylophoney guy will go and protest. Maybe he will get the Rear Admiral to go talk to that school principal.
Ahahahaha! Ironyyyy
Of course Mr Xylophone wouldn’t fight for that. They’re ‘immigrants’ for all he cares
The ultimate of independence is only happen in animal kingdom.
This free sex LGBT kind of people is just like animal where everything goes on sex aspect. They butter their intention with the word ‘Human rights’ or animal rights in small print. Actually it is animal rights in a civilized world. The Fox in sheepskin.
STL,
…don’t waste time on this Xenophone guy, what he want is just cheap publicity…back in Australia…so what’s the point giving him 50 sen publicity
You should look into what’s more important topic such as the quote from The Star news today :
“In a Reuters report dated Feb 14, an unidentified Philippine military officer was quoted as saying that the men were followers of the heirs of the Sultan of Sulu, who had been invited to Sabah by a Malaysian opposition politician to discuss land issues”
…as you said earlier, ‘Those open the door of our NATION to enemies should also be condemned for being SABOTEURS and TRAITORS to the NATION…
So WE, MALAYSIAN either from BN or PR should never ever vote in this SABOTEURS and TRAITORS to the NATION in GE13 for the SAKE of our future GENERATION…THINK and THINK HARD…and don’t REGRET later…if nasi sudah jadi bubur how much you cry is of no use…….
> a Malaysian opposition politician to discuss land issues
“Aku kata, aku akan jadi Sultan Sabah bah. Anwar udah janji sama aku! Kau tengok nanti aku beli semua tanah kamu semua. Ini tanah aku punya!” – crazy guy in KK
Hehe
I see that story has left an impression on you.
Xenophon. Tell your Greeks in Oz do not put up Italian restaurants with Greek owners. Do not con your fellow Aussies. You know what I am talking about. You are Greek, aren’t you Xenophon from Athens ?
Dear dear,
To all you PR troopers, the truth hurts, right?
So instead of debunking the facts all you can do is putting up one liners and fill it with vulgarity.
It clearly shows your political agenda is only for your selfish gains. Never for the good of thid peace loving country.
Come this GE I sincerely hopes all good malaysian comes out to vote and put the final coffin nail to PR.
May you PR troopers rest in peace.
Malaysia will finally get some peace and quiet.
He only helps Anwar’s cause, because he, like Anwar is a proponent for LGBT and same sex marriage. Anwar told him bullshit about lesbos and gays being oppressed by the omg Islamist Malaysian government.
What Xenophon failed to see that he’s supporting the coalition that has PAS in it, which has a more hardline stance on LGBT and things remotely unrelated to it, like Elton John! And K-Pop!
P.S. in an unrelated note, the word ‘Kangaroo Court’ was mentioned multiple times in any wiki article about Anwar Ibrahim.
So now I understand why this kangaroo Xenophone wants to come to M’sia…
…he wants to earn 50 sen per song from his xylophone when he play it at the Kangaroo court…
…to raise fund for his campaign against our palm oil products… how MORON are those so called MALAYSIAN fighting on his behalf…..on another taught…this so called Malaysian also wants 50 sen publicity…
….just a case of you rub my backside I rub your buttock…
The Opposition went overseas to instigate foreigners. And who turned up ? Xenophon ! The Opposition thought he is from Sparta, a Spartan (those guys who never got married) due to lack of a good school curriculum ! Xenophon is Greek from Athens, Greece (the ‘Never on Sunday’ place) which country is claiming expenses from the Honourable Merkel for cleaning and restoring their marbles. Xenophon actually should be in London lobbying Her Royal Highness the Queen to return the Elgin Marbles to Greece or in Athens to investigate all those Swiss banks Greek accounts !
Palm oil is direct competitor to soybean oil. You need to clear more land for soybean than for palm oil production so if environmental protection is important, you should produce less soybean oil and more palm oil. But people like xenophon will say anything to protect soybean producer.
Time will come where Barisan Nasional will celebrate its 2/3 majority in Parliament!
https://www.facebook.com/BarisanNasionalFanpage
Hahaha, the ang mo bought by Anwar could no longer enter into M’sia and possibly even losing his seat in the next Aussie GE. Anwar will try to win this GE by hook or by crook, even if it involves opening up our door for foreigners to come in
PPP. You are right. The Greeks were slaves under the Ottoman Turks until 1918. They were walloped by the Turks recently on the island of Cyprus. They hate the Muslims.
If my name is Xenophon I will pursue my career in something related to music, telephone or IT.
Xylophone is ‘Greek’ word for music instrument.
Xenon an old school popular computer games.
Instead he choose different career just for the love of human ….. back side.
If they want to let some crappy foreigner ‘observe’ Malaysia’s election then PKR and DAP should have no problem with Malaysians observing and criticizing their internal elections.
I’m sure there’s plenty of excel proficient Malaysians who can help DAP too.
For Xenophon. The Greeks were called ‘Grecians’ by President Bush Jr. The Grecians outlasted the back-side fellows known as Spartans from Sparta. Vide. Athens and Sparta. S. Rajaratnam. Foreign Minister, Singapore. Singapore Business Times.1982. From 1592 to 1918, the Greeks were the slaves of the Turks of the Ottoman Empire. They hate Muslims. Hitler’s paratroops walloped them again in 1941. Their own Royalty walloped them after World War 2. The Greek Communists walloped them in the 1940s to early 1950s. The Greeks emigrated to Oz in droves in the 1960s and set up Italian restaurants all over but not a single Greek restaurant. Xeno is from this lot because of the White Policy of Oz. 2 Wongs do not make a Right ! The Turks walloped them a second time on Cyprus a few years ago. Greece has only ancient marbles to show off to tourists. Xeno should go to London to protest against why the British hang on to their Elgin Marbles or to Bern to protest why there are over 2,000 secret Greek Swiss bank accounts or to Athens to count the marbles to claim against the Honourable Chancellor Merkel instead of making a nuisance of himself in friendly and hospitable Malaysia. Have a g’day mate !