People who saw Anwar send his storm troopers in to destroy everything in their way are beginning to believe that for democracy to face the Barisan Nasional, Anwar has got to go
by Lim Chee Wei
An obituary is something that is not easy to write. One never knows what to say as consoling those that have lost a loved one is nearly always an exercise in futility. The violence and chaos that rained down on thousands of bused-in opposition members led by PKR deputy president Azmin Ali yesterday was the final nail in the coffin of the political life his mentor, Anwar Ibrahim.
I am not a fortune-teller but the writing is clearly on the wall. This is the beginning of the end of the political career of Anwar Ibrahim which has spanned more than 40 years.
Full democracy in Malaysia is dependent on the setting up of a sustainable and viable two-party system. People who saw Anwar lose control and sending his storm troopers in to destroy everything in their way are beginning to believe that for democracy to face the Barisan Nasional, Anwar has got to go.
The sheer desperation and willingness to cause the BN political damage at any costs, even causing damage and injury, shows that Anwar knows this general election is his last chance. It is the final salvo of one of the most divisive figures in Malaysia’s political history. Anwar will be 65 this year and waiting for the 14th election will see him just a shade under 70.
It is sad to see an otherwise intelligent man blind to the fact that he will never be prime minister. The destructiveness he unleashed on Kuala Lumpur this weekend is the final act of desperation of a man hoping in vain that he has still got one final act to play. What he does not realise is that his audience has left and moved on to something, or someone, that far more closely resembles an ideal leadership with which they want to spend time and watch.
Slippery slope
Bersih co-chairman S Ambiga herself conceded that the police acted after the political segments of the rally intimidated and attacked the police. In her own attempt to salvage what has become an irreparable situation of chaos and violence, she naively asks the government to think about why some people would act so extremely.
The men who smashed the cars were not motivated by a desire for electoral reform. Rather, they acted because Anwar allegedly incited them to do it. Anwar knew that if they rained chaos on the streets, the police would be forced to act. Only then would his friends in the foreign media be able to dedicate many minutes of coverage to chaos in yet another Muslim majority country.
Ambiga has to take some of the responsibility despite her attempts to ask the crowd to disperse before the trouble started. She herself repeatedly asked PAS and PKR to shore up her numbers in the event that ordinary non-partisan Malaysians did not show up. It is as clear as day that Bersih has been entirely taken over by the opposition. This could have been avoided if Ambiga never started on that slippery slope of sharing the Bersih stage with Anwar in particular.
I am a Chinese and the first trait of my people is pragmatism, which is why we felt that there needed to be a much stronger opposition in 2008 given the wanton corruption and abuses of the BN then. But Pakatan would do well not to take my pragmatism for granted. Chaos and desperation are not pragmatic. For the first time since 2008, Anwar does not seem like a pragmatic choice for Prime minister.
Democratic progress is not about upturning cars on the streets and vigilante rowdies running riot in our cities. Democratic progress is the setting up of a true two-party system. Pakatan needs a real leader who believes in the ideals of democracy and has never practiced otherwise. With this, I hereby write the beginning of the end of Anwar Ibrahim’s political career on April 28, 2012.
Yeah, so now he must face a future of poverty filled with fear and insecurity for himself, his wife, 1st daughter and the rest.
His own ‘friends’ will desert him coz no more dollars coming in. His sponsors will be left foaming at the mouth for having chosen a failure/non-starter for their puppet.
All because Ummi Hafilda possesses a stainless steel spine, Paklah & sil were terminated prematurely – and DS Najib’s performance at a sterling level of competency.
Syabas DS Najib. Kudos to Ummi and Saiful Bukhari. Allah bless Malaysia.
Bekas2 student UM seangkatan tahun 1970an tahu dan amat menyampah dengan sifat Anwar ini. He is a chicken and always chickened out when faced by authorities during students demonstrations in his era.
Anwar ini cuma lulusan sastera UM gred paling rendah. Malah dia pernah gagal dan terpaksa repeat pun. Student2 universiti sekarang mana tahu semua ini. Pernah dia lari dan tinggal di Perancis beberapa lama meninggalkan rakan2 perjuangan. Inikah yang digahkan sebagai leader? He was a coward in reality, exactly thats why he ran to Turkish ambassador’s residence when faced with Saiful sodomy accusation in 2008.
Hw will certainly run away again…
Ambiga was for Clean and fair election.
Anwar war for breaking the barriers ..between races and barb wires erected to bar Malaysians from using it.
Both are fighting for justice….traveling the same road with different objectives.
Anwar said…cheating in elections is OK….but breaking the barb wires is a crime.
More BERSIH events….Najib will loose more votes.
Mr Lim, you are absolutely wrong. Anwar never ever started. He is a loser from day one. Look at him and you will see him as :
1. A leader without integrity
2. Big liar
3. Leader with Bad Public relation. Eg. Showing authoritarian specially during PC, you can ask question but the question must be a favorable one otherwise he kick you out. Best PR goes to Tun M and Najib
4. Leader without substance
5. Irresponsible leader
6.Coward leader by staying behind wife and daughter
And the list goes on
Umno-controlled New Straits Times (NST) has been accused of fabricating words in a three-year-old speech by Australian Senator Nick Xenophon, a known associate of Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, to portray the former as anti-Islam, Australian newspapers reported today.
According to the Sydney Morning Herald (SMH) today, the independent senator is fuming from the “extraordinary attack” against his impartiality and is contemplating legal action against NST.
Xenophon told the Australian newspaper that NST’s alleged use of the word “Islam” to replace the actual term “Scientology”, which he had criticised in his 2009 speech, was “an example of the kind of dirty tricks the ruling party employs and had used against the Opposition Leader Anwar”.
NST has since removed the article from its website, but cached copies can still be found of the offending story.
In the NST article, Xenophon was not only accused of insulting Islam during his 2009 adjournment speech in Australia’s Parliament, but was also said to have expressed strong support for the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) community.
NST’s extract of the speech quoted the senator as saying: “What we are seeing is a worldwide pattern of abuse and criminality. On the body of evidence, this is not happening by accident; it is happening by design. Islam is not a religious organisation. It is a criminal organisation that hides behind its so-called religious beliefs.”
But in the excerpt from the Australian Parliament’s Hansard, cited in the SMH, Xenophon had actually said: “What we are seeing is a worldwide pattern of abuse and criminality. On the body of evidence, this is not happening by accident; it is happening by design. Scientology is not a religious organisation. It is a criminal organisation that hides behind its so-called religious beliefs.”
As we know, though his counterpart will distant themselves from him. I still believe, he is not finished. To be honest, the most thing I afraid of now is, the worse thing that he’s have in his mind, the twilight and it is yet to come.
Actually opposition have a bright chance to win public hearts from Bersih 3.0. But the chaos and violence really ruined and tarnished their reputation and who to blame for?
Nonetheless, kudos to all policeman.
Who started it? The police force?
You story is half baked.
Have you seen the press conference last night? There’s a protester who asked DSAI of “Why did you hijack our assembly” and DSAI didn’t answer. He asked his aides to escort him out of the room.
Imagine if he was PM. He’d be like Goebbels.
Rest in peace Anwar Ibrahim. At least you will have the time to watch your China doll video over and over again as well as the now-showing and so-called Azmin’s video. Make LOVE, not DEMO.
I am a subscriber of ASTRO with news in the package. The purpose of subscribing to BBC, CNN and Al Jazeera is that I want to see and hear neutral and true presentation of the news. Now that BBC claimed that ASTRO had censored part of its reporting on BERSIH 3, I felt very cheated by it. I pay to see the real picture of events both local and abroad. I pay to hear the real truth, not half truth. As such, ASTRO owed us an apology and must be responsible to replay the news uncensored. Failing which, I will cancel my news component in the package
cancel cepat2 la bro there’s no need for u to bark here like a dawg!
Please inform the whole nation upon you terminating Astro’s subscription. Your family will understand your action.
But don’t take too long to do it, do it today or this week okay maa, coz Astro will never apologise to you.
Anyway, u can still watch tv3 maa, they show hindi movies too.
BBC, CNN and Al Jazeera neutral news? You must be kidding me.
Halo tok bak, sudah kansel ka astro hari ini? Cepat la bagi tau
Alo, sudah cancel ka? Kasi sumua tahu
That man has started his own funeral since day one he left the office of DPM. Slowly his influence in politics is waning and resentment on his method of doing things is growing. He lost so many good friends during the 15 years none more decisive than the lost of Ezam, whom persona and charisma a notch up than Assmin his beloved blue eyed boy.
That thirst of power finally taken up on him. Once regarded as a stout muslim PM in-waiting now a liberalist and pluralist, a threat to Islamic principles and values. Never that Islam is being misrepresented so low by any Malaysian than him. Suffice to say that his skewed judgement on sexual rights is valid without doubt.
Malaysia once proud of its pearl of Asia in Mahathir now have an opposite values, an exact anti thesis to Mahathir in Anwar, a rotten bad tomato in common word. He may have put his name in the history of Malaysia as the one that had rocked the aristocrats of Malaysia, but his name is remembered more on his moral sapping activities and than anything, innuendos or not is for you to decide.
Over the years, i have maintained that Anwar is a compulsive liar because every court case, there strong hard evidence brought up but he & his laywers manage to discredit based on technicalities. Recent China doll video is so obvious, 99% is him and one guy offered his sports car as reward for somebody to show his clone but nobody came forward. Many of him ex buddies had came forward to expose him but he manage to ular out. This Bersih video finally without any doubt 100% nail him down. God is great, truth finally prevail.
Bersih 3.0 was undoubtedly an enormous success for the Rakyat! Bersih 3.0 was a huge failure for Najib, Hishamuddin and the police! Bersih 3.0 united the Rakyat of Malaysia never seen before in a united stand for free and fair election!
The brutal, barbaric and cowardly ways ordinary protesters were brutalized by the police are now beamed the world over bringing enormous shame to the Najib Government!
In all instances, you can see more than 10 police bashing a helpless protester. Aren’t they ashamed of their cowardly actions?
Think about these folks, almost all journalists had their cameras damaged or confiscated, why so? All train stations were closed during the attacks by police on ordinary peaceful Bersih supporters! How come? All mobile communications within the vincinity were jammed, who did it? The ordinary Rakyat? Or was it some with the ability and capability to do it?
The time has come for all Malaysians to please sit up, open your eyes and see the evil of this falling Government! The traits of a falling Government is all too similar and all too familiar. Look at the Arab Spring, what happened, how did the failed Government act? Eerily similar to what the Najib administration is or are doing! Employ the force of the police aided by the spins by MSMs! Intimidate and brutalize its citizens!
But what happened? The people rose in bigger numbers that eventually led to the downfall of the corrupt regimes! The story is the same everywhere, dictators trying to hang on to power by every mean!
Eventually, they will meet their Waterloo in the hands of the Rakyat!
Nothing beats peoples power, From the days of early 1987 with the fall of Ferdinand Marcos, peoples power were conspicuous in the fall of many corrupt regimes in Southeast Asia and the World! The only standing regime is the one which we have, and now no matter what, we are witnessing the final moments of a great political organization, misled, manipulated and used for the leader’s own political interests biting the dust!
UMNO/BN will fall come PRU 13! The rise of youth power is so evident, and the fact that the protesters today does not come from one single race is indeed encouraging. Malaysians of all walks of lives came and rallied for an honourable cause and that made a significant difference!
For the Malays, they had long dumped UMNO, only the non Malays through the corrupt MCA, the impotent MIC and the frigid GELAKAN are propping up a corrupt and brutal regime!
After Bersih 3.0 we can very well judge the fate of sycophants like MCA/GELAKAN and MIC! The minorities had risen together with their Malay brothers and sisters! And the numbers of minorities showing their support for Bersih and their disgust for bad governance and corruptions are most encouraging!
There is very good hope for a historical upset come PRU 13! As usual, the secret to unlocking UMNO/BN’s hold on to power is to totally vote out the sycophants, i.e MCA/MIC/GELAKAN! Once these irrelevant and useless parties are out of the way, UMNO/BN will fall!
Imagine, what can MCA/MIC/GELAKAN do for you now after failing for 55 years? Give them another chance so they plead? Ask the youths of the country!
Folks, we MUST work hard to ensure the total demise of MCA/MIC/GELAKAN and inflict maximum damage on UMNO for a chance for change! We cannot live on under this brutal and corrupt administration anymore! Try we must and together we will dump this evil regime for good! We shall go down in history as the generation of brave Malaysians that ousted a brutal and corrupt regime!
Selamatkan Malaysia! Salam 1Bersih Malaysia!
idiot.. we talk about anwar political career.. BERSIH is total failure.. it is turn from peace protest to riot just because anwar.. if you learn, sleep, eat math everyday like i do, you will realize that not even 50 000 peoples in that RIOT… i have pretty strong academic background to prove that.. just ask me
It is scary when a scary riot which happened with broken bones, teeth and blood on the street will be called succcesful.
What happened to our peace loving Malaysians, whom are well known for their courteousness, Samaritans helping unknown people, welcoming strangers truly in need into the house?
Has that era gone to the dogs, caused by instigating, greedy and unethical politician(s) in their hunger for power irregardless, polarising the many layers and strata of society in Malaysia bringing long term negative impact to our children (ie the young children being separated in primary schools by race all in the name of the parents’ selfishness and politics survival hence devoiding them of the chance to integrate and have best friends and good exposure amongst races. One parent was heard proudly saying that her child learned good Malay from the Indon orang gaji)
Have that era taken over by people whom use strategy of good name calling replacement/ ie calling Bersih bersih when its otherwise, calling keadilan such when its evident otherwise within, or calling save Malaysia when its so apparent a vice versa action, claiming police violent when they themselves broke the law and started the first blood by provoking and hitting the police(to achieve such aim). Such is prevalent in the opposing parties(which is ironically supposed to be the balancing force) well in the parliment-pursuing nonrelevant issue, walking out, getting suspended hence not fighting for the rakyat cause and now in the streets sacrificing people’s limb (paid or volunteer is another issue) all for the sake of furthering theirs and family powers.
Are we 1st world country with 3rd world mentality(or 3rd world greed)?
Haven’t all rakyat been well taken care of and provided opportunity?
The magnanimous BN has ruled the country well for the past 50 years. Do
we want to throw everything away just for simple hype and glib rhetorics by some individual who is suspected of even dubious moral conduct and desire, or for a simple greed of owning and taking over the land and everything on it.
Almost everybody is loaded now economy fairly good- you can even see many students bearing Iphone with facebooks. So what else is lacking? Textbook idealism? Accomplishment of rhetorics which is non measurable and subject to manipulation?
We have to think long term
Think win win.
Not win lose
Not just to win at all cost, even if Malaysia become a barren ground abound with blood and spite
I as a rakyat would like to see a caring govt taking care of all the rakyat in all forms and strata, with cooperation of the many faces of society at the highest form with proper representative working with a practical and win win approach. Hasn’t BN been a proven method all these while?(with some shortfalls discounted as no parties nor human are perfect) We have to look at the big picture. What have we seen so far in the fierceful and mendula heads of the opposition which is tied together by a small string by just one male? Can we trust them long term? Can they run any ship well and straight?
Regards
“umno/bn will fall come pru 13″ – ahmad oh ahmad, betapa angkuh nya puak2 pakatan haram ini, berkat ajaran parti2 sesat pkr dan pas. Anyway i you are not even a malay. “Mohd Sobri” sounds more real, ah kow maa!
“The minorities have risen”, but the majority will form the government….that’s democracy. Please dont forget, every cop has a vote, and there are more of them then the bersih crowd.
Hello brader, what are u smoking?
What worries me most is that the Arab Spring demos grew because some deaths occurred during the initial protests.
The question that buzzes in my head right now is – what exactly was DSAI hoping for when he gave the signal to crash the barricades and thus spark a physical confrontation with the police?
The BERSIH guy at the PC clearly said that he and a lot of others could have been killed and he was clearly pissed off at DSAI.
So my fellow Malaysians, be very careful that you do not end up as sacrificial pawns to further the ambitions of desperate people.
Bicker, argue and debate by all means but please shun all things that are violent or have the potential of turning violent.
in your dream or b.ABI’s dreams????????
PM16sept for 4 years is not satisfied with his position so he hijacked this bersihjijik3.oooooooooo with a hope that people like ASs here would swallow the poisonous remedy put in all toghether!!
*yes! kudos to the royal police!!
As a neutral person:
1. I think government should be more firm on this issue. Charge the culprits immediately. Most of Malaysians already fade up with the chaos.
2. Congrats to our Indian community. I strongly believe this is their minimum involvement compared to Bersih 1.0 and Bersih 2.0..seems like they are more mature politically.
3. Round 3.0 – Anwar & The Gang dragged more Chinese community to the street and teach them how to break laws. It’s shameful because they need to be responsible with the collective violence and crimes.
4. A person wearing the kopiah..maybe an obedience Muslim..but seems doing Kung Fu kick at patrol car..WTF !
5. Earlier PRU- 13 please! We can’t wait to teach somebody a lesson…
6. Selamatkan Malaysia – from hooligans !
7. Selamatkan Malaysia – from low mentality Oppositions !
8. Selamatkan Malaysia – from an evil PM wannabe !
The kopiah putih is just a headgear. PAS members wear it not because they are Muslim or following the sunnah of the prophet. They wear it just because kopiah putih is associated with their political. If they truly follow the sunnah, they would not have been there in the first place. Yes, rightly said, WTF!
It never fails to amaze me how PAS leaders stand by Anwar at all costs, despite all the glaring evidence of him as traitor to his own nation, religion and gender.
One can see the greed and lust for power supercede the teachings of one’s faith and values.
Don’t even try to equate Islam with PAS. The latter is just in a name.
Neither entities above will get my vote in PRU.
nkama
To start with, I proclaim myself as a neutral Malaysian, politic-wise.
I first bumped into this site just 3 weeks ago. The first link I read was “About Us”. I like your description, trying to provide a “balanced news”, not like mainstream media or those opposition supported media. My first thought was, great now I found a really reliable “balanced news”.
How wrong was I.
This “stop the lies” site is obviously pro-BN.
Well, don’t start commenting first. Read on.
I myself don’t believe that Anwar can be a great leader. Well, Najib is not a great leader anyway too. As a Malaysian, I don’t really give a damn who become the PM. We are not in the US. Not everybody stands a chance to be a PM. What we Malaysian want is a leader that does thing and make decisions that doesn’t embarrass the country in the eyes of the world. Usually when anything bad or stupid happens, I feel more disappointed than angry.
I also don’t think that it is possible at all to stop corruption. Every single country or corporation that operates anywhere in the world has got corruption issue. But we need a leader that can contain corruption, and minimize it to the point where it doesn’t jeapordize the future generations. You want to know why Bersih rallies are getting bigger and bigger each time? Because the current government is getting too obvious and arrogant. Please don’t think the rakyat are stupid. We don’t know and we can’t guarantee if opposition will be a good new leader of the country. But one thing many knows for sure, we need a change. And we need it fast. I can guarantee you, if there ever going to be a Bersih 4.0, the number of people will be double at least. You see for your own eyes, how many times the number of people increases since 2007, 2011 and now 2012.
As an admin for this site you say “stop the lies”. I say you stop lying to yourself.
‘Because the current government is getting too obvious and arrogant’.
The current opposition is too arrogant even before they can bring any evidence to show that they are worthy to govern Malaysia.
You share the same dream like many of the frequent visitors to this blog but like many of the pro opposition supporters, they think we need to change the government in order to get better. Why is it Kelantan can’t even produce clean water, they have the highest unemployment rate and the highest HIV rate in Malaysia after 20 years of ruling?
Typical armchair commentator.
Where were you during 709 or 428 my dear keyboard warrior.
They were given plenty of time to prove themselves since 1957 by the way. And they blew it.
I was not one of the demonstrators in 708 nor 428. Never plan to be part of it too. Being involve in the street demo does not prove anything. I too disagree with corruption and inefficiency in governance. Despite the flaws of the current government, Malaysians since 1957 have been able to enjoy a good standard of living and we live in a peaceful country. Are you going to deny that?
Of course I don’t deny we have thus far able to live in a peaceful country. Standard of living is just decent. Looking at the change of the economy situation in the past 10-15 years, the gap between the rich and the poor is getting bigger and show no signs of stopping.
So don’t we, the rakyat, have any say about wanting and demanding an even better standard of living?
I have said earlier too, I don’t deny that corruptions too is happening at any other countries and/or corporations, but it should be contained and even so, the country and/or corporations should be able to get its job done properly and fulfil the people’s demand. Just an example, simple task like making sure the federal roads are properly tarred also can’t be done.
It’s simple things like this in life that matters most to many people. If the government get all this simple things done properly, nobody is really going to care what they do behind the scenes. These are things that affect the daily life of the people.
Here I quote again: “Respect existence, or expect resistence.”
You say you are neutral, but it sounds that your are pro-PR. I am not a Malaysian, but I have been here 18 years, and my wife is Malaysian. Yes I am Pro-BN, my question is if it ain’t broke why do you want to fix it. Every gov’t has problems, but the current Selangor gov’t proves the PR is part of the problem. It is up to the people to change things, but lets start with something easy like corruption, stop giving, then there is no problem.
Well, based on the current political situation in this country, every single person who criticize the current BN-led government will be automatically assumed as pro-PR. I don’t blame you. I stand by my opinion as a neutral. I’m just a simple citizen looking for a better future in this country.
Better future? The PR gov? Take a look at the state of K’tan after 22 years.. Open your eyes to what Penang gov did to Kg. Buah Pala.. Or how bersih S’gor is right now under its current government?
No one denies that BN isnt the untouchable clean and holy government.. but until the the PR shows a valid track record that they are really a capable alternative.. Jom Ubah is suicide for the country.
I think some of you have got me wrong here. I’m not saying i will vote for PR this coming election. In fact I don’t know yet who my vote going to go to.
If the government shows that they care for the people – by actions, not just words – I honestly don’t give a damn who is ruling. From a neutral’s point of view, it’s extremely important that the ruling goverment takes care of people’s welfare and that should be the top number 1 priority. If everyone’s taken care of, who would care how many submarines or sub standard jet fighters they buy?
In recent times, technology has advanced tenfold, in parallel with knowledge. People learn how to access the internet. News are easily obtain internationally. People are no longer stupid. They are reading all this nonsense about the current government, and at the same time, not being well taken care of, it’s human nature that their opinion and mind set will change.
A rally meant to be a peaceful one, for the people to show concerned – and I don’t deny too that opposition parties have taken advantage of – are being treated like a national treat, with forces guarding an empty field. Human’s basic fundamental rights are being denied by the government. It only adds more anger and disappointment to the people.
I believe that if 428 were not treated with razor barricades, tear gases and water canons, the assembly would have ended in peace that evening, just like other states and other parts of the world. Nobody would be able to see videos and pictures people struggling, police attacking civilians, police cars being overturned and so forth.
Sometimes no action is also an action. The government letting the people go on a rally peacefully would have won my vote too.
But now I’m really not too sure.
Have you guys seen this video? A Bersih supporter tells Anwar off at a press conference. Priceless!
http://bit.ly/IIbXyz
These videos more worthy of your time:
BERS✔H 3.0: HOT…!!! KEKEJAMAN POLIS YANG MELAMPAU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y8wIUtqJ6A&feature=youtu.be&has_verified=1
Bersih 3.0 – Police Brutality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ct1hG3nRU8Y
Bersih 3.0 witnesses: ‘Overturn police car to save life’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5VDwhSIJhUA
Overturn police car to save life? What life? There was no one underneath the car. Maybe those guys in the video were smoking magic mushrooms. Check out these photos:
http://t.co/uEqX4Zzo
If i have a dream car that i wanna buy and own some day, i would never talk bad or tarnish the image of the car. i will accept whatever flaws and shortcomings in the car and promise myself to maintain to the best of my ability. But here we have a man who wants to carry the nation, or easily put – wants to be the PM. But he goes around spreading about all the weaknesses of the country not to our own rakyat, but around the world. Ask yourself dear readers, would you be bold enough to give this country to him? I won’t. I see changes happening everyday around Malaysia, but never would i wanna see this man becoming PM. The harmony and peace of this country is just too, too precious.,. God Bless.
If you have owned and driven a Proton, your view will be the opposite.
Exactly.
I am not talking about a real car u dum dum.. its an example and i dont give a damn what car u drive either. Genuine PKR concept.. always wrong hole wan.. i mean sorry always wrong assumptions wan..
As I have commented earlier, I declare myself as a neutral, demising the current government but not supporting the opposition either. If the current government does not improve, you can’t stop the voice of the people calling for a change. Why are the rallies getting bigger each time? Because it was badly handled by the current ruling government. And upon the mistakes they made, more and more actions are being covered up and lame excuses were given. I was there to see with my own eyes how the events unfold and later in the evening read with my own eyes how the events were told differently by our mainstream medias, of course controlled by your beloved government. Like I said, I don’t think Anwar is a worthy leader of this country, but when people is starting to hate the current one, they will just go for the next best thing. It’s pure human nature. During the chaotic period last weekend, I see more disappointment and sadness, rather than anger in many faces.
Here’s a paragraph I copied, written by one of our fellow citizen:
“Admittedly, thousands of Pakatan marchers walked the streets on Saturday. They were noisy, boisterous and loud in the support of their leaders. That only represents a partial truth. An equal, or perhaps larger numbers of persons walked not because they support Pakatan, but because they are totally disgusted by the Election Commission. If Pakatan benefits electorally by securing the votes of this large group of persons, Barisan Nasional and its proxy, the Election Commission, only have themselves to blame. They are the authors of their own misfortune.”
“If Pakatan benefits electorally by securing the votes of this large group of persons, Barisan Nasional and its proxy, the Election Commission, only have themselves to blame. They are the authors of their own misfortune.”’
This statement is contradicting Pakatan’s belief about the Election Commission. How can the opposition win the election if the Election Commission is not neutral?
That is the purpose of Bersih rally in the first place. To call for a neutral Election Commission.
The way the current government is running the show at the moment, the opposition is taking advantage on the situation and more neutrals are going to vote against BN.
I don’t think you get what I mean.
If Pakatan believe they can win the election with majority vote, then they must also believe that the Election Commission is neutral. If the Election Commission is bias, there is no way PAKATAN can win the election, with or without big majority. Therefore, that defeats the purpose of having Berseh street demo.
Only a ‘Neutral’ but pro Pakatan will vote for them.
Theyve won 5 states out of 13 in PR 12. EC Biased?
That time pak lah was overconfident and thought he could play fair to win.
Najib learnt the lesson well. So he got 2 Umno members to head EC.
“Why are the rallies getting bigger each time? ”
Because the drama king managed to get more financial sponsors and sources to pay up people and hooligans just to show up and wear those yellow tees . Just to show the world that he has all the “rakyat” behind him and the government are dictators comparable to hitler and Stalin . Don’t believe me , do your research and find out how many people were paid just to show up . Nope , he doesn’t call that bribes , it is just “incentives” .
Not necessarily due to bribe. I would say a lot of Malaysians want to make changes – good changes. Unfortunately most of them think by participating in street demo, they will get what they want. Possibly there are some truth in this view but the cost of the street demo is huge. We have seen the violence that erupted and what they want may not be achieved. It divides the nation. Is that a positive outcome.
It reminds me of a two year old throwing a tantrum when s/he does not get want they want.
I don’t know who got paid bribes or incentives to show up on 428. But I personally know many friends, mutual friends and many other elderly group of people who shows up voluntarily. This was not seen in 709.
When first Bersih was organized in 2007, I was skeptical. I thought why would people want to go riot and violence was not the answer. Then comes 2011 and even more people attended. In the end of course it ended in violence too but post-mortem I see how bad lies were being covered up. Come 2012, number of people who attended Bersih have grew at least double or probably triple. Trust me the numbers reported in media are way below the actual figures. Imagine entire stretch of 4 main roads leading up to Dataran Merdeka, Jalan TAR, Jalan Raja Laut, Jalan Tun Perak and Jalan Sultan were jammed packed with people. You telling me only 10-50K people attended?
U think probably triple. Ok lets say, 50k x 3. Thats 150k, ok lets say thats probably right.
Now we have Anwar boasting 300k during Pc and he need to repeat the figure probably 5 times!!!lol.
So, here we see even you have to admit this Anwar is a hardcore liar, and how are we expecting such leader to be bersih?
Anyway, whether 50k, 150k or 300k (sic, thats 3 times packed bukit jalil stadium watching harimau malaya vs garuda indonesia aff cup, lol), please go visit yourself how a Neutral blogger – donplaypuks – derived total crowd from a photo.
If you believe the photo, then u must be real, i mean real neutral. Hehe, cheers
I didn’t see it from the photo. I was there.
What had happen is indeed a sad day for Malaysian, but a day of reckoning as well. People, especially those who participate in this ‘peaceful demonstration’ will see the true character of this so called ‘Charismatic leader’.
The main reason of this ‘peaceful demonstration’ is for clean and fair election.
You want to talk about fair, clean election. Let take one country located at our southern tip as an example. Last year they had an General Election, the ruling party won about 60% of the people votes and yet the hold 80 out of 87 seats in Parliament – total control.
How this is possible? Our BN lost its 2/3 majority in last election and this was reflected by the voting percentage. Yet this southern country still able to maintained the hold on the parliament, when it only have 60% of the votes. It is a cleaner, fairer election compare to Malaysia?
People of this southern country are fed up with their government, yet opposition party can’t even make any inroad to the parliament.
We must admit to the fact that we need opposition party in Parliament, but what kind of opposition that we want. Certainly not this so called ‘Charismatic leader’
BN’s policies in ruling Malaysia belong to the old school of thoughts where violence, press restrictions, corruption and racism will guaranteed success as ruling party since 1963. And you never teach an old dog new tricks. Najib is holding the torch for Mahathir to carry on BN’s ruthless campaign in controlling the rakyat using ISA/SOB, RCI and MACC to their advantages, turning this once democratic society into a dictatorship. Of course, BERSIH is doing its job to create awareness about our flawed election process and merely demanded for changes to ensure fairness and transparency in a peaceful manner. Unfortunately, BN sees that as a threat to its own political agendas. Brute force is also ‘extinct’ now, unless Najib wants to witness ARAB SPRING heading towards Malaysia inevitably.
Where have you been these past couple of weeks? ISA has been abolished and several bills have been amended.
He’s been in a cave, wearing tinfoil hat
can follow the GREAT USA change ISA to patriot act detain without prosecution change MACC to CIA detain sent oversea do waterboarding deport back charge illigal exit of the country we are slow at least in the right direction
M,sia not even in the top most corrupted country in the world but we R No 1 most corrutor country in the world yes that mean YOU & YOU & YOU ask yourself be honest after offering MONEY got things done yr way after the (withdrawal sydrom) U are angry very but U blame it on the person who U just paid for one corruted official there R 10 corruptor do the math 1×10 we the people have the power to corrup people and we do it very well so shame on U but dont come out high & innocent the country is more innocent than its people
lol but Nik Aziz gave money to Bersih protesters, he admitted it to the media.
Not saying anything about the corrupt logging too……..ehehehhehe
how clean you yourself when shouting & chanting ‘bersih’? have you ever wonder why corruptions happen in the first place? because people like you would like to clear things the easiest way out but work cheap & dirty ways! the most basic bribery – bribing your own child to get things done @ bought from a nearby shop! then majority would be bribing the policemen to get away from any offends, bribing government officers to get your paperwork through, bribing municipal officers to clear away summons for blocking the corridor, bribing in any senseless way you can to smooth your day…in every way you can! stop blaming the others when you yourself cannot guarantee that you are not bribing any; one including God when you ask for more without doing anything worth!!
If you ask me to trust MCA or DAP, I pick DAP. If you ask me to pick between PAS and PKR, I take PAS. But if you ask me to pick Anwar or Najib, that is a no brainer.
Did you guys see the way Anwar grinned when he gestured to Azmin to start the ball rolling? Confidently evil. But God is great. Somehow someone will expose his plot.
Most of us would like to have things fair. That’s what Bersih is all about. But in this real world especially in Asia, being totally fair and transparent is nice to have but it is just naive. That’s why we have many Malaysians ” the so called Middle Malaysia” participating for a good cause.
Whether we had been made used of or treated as pawns is up to you. Sit back and think about it but one thing for sure, the police do not need to be so tough and rough. However that is another matter altogether.
I know what I am already and I am not happy that I am being used in Bersih for someone’s cause.
Whatever the hidden agenda behind BERSIH 3.0, it is logical to say that the organisers wanted to send a message to the present government about the weakness in out electoral system. Ok, that’s fine. I think we can agree that the motive behind all this is to SEND A MESSAGE to the government. Off course they could done it successfully from Stadium Merdeka, Stadium Bukit Jalil ot other venues that was offered by the government and DBKL. But i strongly feel the organizers urge to have it out on the open just for the ripple effect that would be created. Now, all these SUHAKAM, press and NGO interferences on the actions of police and the government would be good for the opposition, as they anticipate the public to gradually loose trust in the present government. All this for one guy to satisfy his greed to become PM? Please Malaysia, this peace and harmony is just too precious. God Bless….
Bersih 3.0 before that Bersih 2.0 & now talk Bersih 4.0 coming in bersih 1 & 2 been meet with Police beating & policemen injure in bersih 3.0 some policemen use excessive force on protester as can be seen on U-Tube & protester beating policemen badly for the Bersih commitee to say what hapen is beyond expectation is very naive or i am naive the things is all the so call leader of pakatan & Bersih are not seen at all in U-TUBE or any news program until u see them in a safe enviroment about to give press statment they hv contigency plan for the just in case where as the protester who thinking of doing justice for the country hv no ideal of where to go or where to run
hari demi hari…take a god look @ Al Juburi’s face….thats a sure sign of a compulsive liar…. macam tomato exposed to the sun….
someone should tell him to migrate to Phillipines…even actors can become President, mana tahu Al Juburipun boeh jadi President.
we are living in harmoney our former ustaz anwar want to spoil the harmoney. common ustaz, u should shut up u r mouth and stay at home in permatang pauh or sell kopi r teh tarik new u r house in canvas tent shop. Kiamat dah dekat, siaplah uztaz nak ke kubur, akhirat tidak terima jika kau buat jahat begini. syukurlah dengan anak bini kurniaaan Allah.