Lim Guan Eng Silent Like a Lamb on Kedah Fatwa

The supposedly vocal Guan Eng has suddenly lost his voice or rather his courage to speak up, especially on issues which can anger his PAS “tai kor”.

A pertinent issue in Kedah with regards to the State Fatwa has cropped up and we don’t see him calling for an immediate press conference which he usually does on certain issues.

Perhaps the recent ruling enacted by the Kedah state assembly last Tuesday is not important or significant for him to speak up.

Maybe he has now adopted a selective criticism policy. Only when criticism are hurled at him, he jumps up like a “Monyet kena belacan” and would respond with an immediate calling of a press conference.

Other than that, those which infringes upon the fundamental rights of the people, those that impinges on the religious beliefs of others, are perhaps secondary to him and can wait.

Perhaps Guan Eng is too tied down with so many development plans to go through which he wants to push through before the general election. Remember, he now has many rich friends who are big time developers and he cannot afford to keep them waiting.

He has no time for the rakyat now. The people can wait. After assuming the Chief Minister’s post, he has discovered that his new found friends are more important.

He is no longer the Guan Eng who has ears and the heart for the people compared to three years ago before the last elections. His motto has now changed to “My rich friends first, people last.”

On the Kedah fatwa, it is worrisome and quite frightening to note that the fatwa ruling will ensure that a fatwa decided by the mufti and fatwa committee “cannot be challenged, appealed, reviewed, denied or questioned in any civil court or syariah court”.

The new legislative provision which bans the challenge of religious edicts (fatwa) in the courts is clearly undemocratic.

It also runs contrary to Islamic principles. Islam accepts and respects differing views from those of other faiths.

With the general election so near, certainly PAS is slowly inching its way to impose its ideals on the people, irrespective of their religious beliefs and the sensitivities that goes with it.

With the ruling, it means Kedah’s fatwas are “unshakable” and that the mufti and fatwa committee has the absolute authority and say on matters concerning religion. Where is the democracy that Pakatan Rakyat has so promised the people.

The signs are very clear that the PAS-led Kedah government wants to rule the state based on theocratic principles, and damn with its other Pakatan Rakyat partners.

Anyway and anyhow, we don’t hear anything from the once vocal Guan Eng who has probably lost his balls after PAS had told DAP off to either leave the Pakatan coalition or shut up if they were not happy with hudud law.

And obviously for political expediency, they remain and shut up.

Guan Eng has only managed to get a “agreeing to disagree” commitment from PAS with regards to hudud. That’s about all. This is what we call a loose coalition within Pakatan where PAS is the “tai kor” and DAP has to kow tow to them.

Perhaps Guan Eng has inherited the “boh lan hood” (no balls) attitude of his predecessor.

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37 Responses to Lim Guan Eng Silent Like a Lamb on Kedah Fatwa

  1. Shirly says:

    Guan Eng talks big but when it comes to confronting his PAS “tai kor”, he is reduced to a little kid.
    He does not have the guts to stand up against them. I am very disappointed with him.

    • MoleBru says:

      LGE is not a muslim.
      So why should he comment on issues pertainig to muslims only?
      Fatwa is for muslims only.
      Non-malays got other better things to focus on.
      So keep your mouth shut!

      • Islander says:

        Come on guys. Give LGE a chance. He is too busy. Claiming credit for things he does not do. Saving money for Penangites by selling state land to half past 6 developers (I also can’t figure that one out). Giving ceramah every nite. And god knows what else. Why should he care about Kedah where PAS treats his DAP people like sidekicks. Er, that’s also how LGE treats PAS and PKR guys in Penang.

    • 改朝换代 says:

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      在此,我希望所有会使用电脑的马来西亚同胞们,也能以这种或其他​的方法,把这些报章所看不到的国震恶行,传达到每一个层次去。要​实现“改朝换代”就得靠大家的力量了。

      • Anonymous says:

        若国阵BN在第13届大选继续赢得政权,那么必定会实行3件事情,那就是商品服务税(GST)、稀土厂及核电厂(Lynas)、以及贪污腐败(Corruption)将会持续进行. Jom Bersih!

    • big dog says:

      Shirly

      I suggest you do not comment on fatwa matters since you are not a Muslim.

  2. Ramakrishnan says:

    When it is the time to speak up, he keeps silent. Mana bolih pakai ini mia politician.
    I am from Penang and i tend to agree with stopthelies that Guan Eng is a changed man.
    He is seen often with his rich developer friends at dinner functions. He gives them priority by attending functions hosted by them instead of small events organised by us small fries.

  3. Aidil Yunus says:

    Oohhh Shirly please dont start soon all other issues from lembu to god knows what will resurface over and over again. I mean what else is new right. Broken record player aka daptroopers are going to attack soon… :-)

    • Shirly says:

      Hi Aidil,
      I cant expressing my views cause i am really disappointed with Guan Eng. Honestly I voted for him in the last elections. Being an NGO for an environment group, I am aghast with the way he is running the state. There are so many uncontrolled development taking place.
      We got the support from the DAP when we objected to the Penang Global City project years ago and now they are doing what the Global City fellows are doing.

      • Hey Shirly

        I suggest your environmental group go to Pengerang, Johor to save the place from Rapid that is destroying the place and livelihood of fishermen.

        • DAPisRACIST? says:

          DAP is only good at using people.

          • AKB428 says:

            Even if PR is bad, as some BN hardcore supporters would like to imagine, it cannot be worse than BN’s 54 years of decadence.

        • Benjamin says:

          Angry Lobster,
          Shirley is expressing her feeling and she deserved it. Pengerang is another issue. Our government still very considerate as lots of compensation is being paid and it was done according to laws. To develop we need to sacrifice for the nation.
          Not only that, DAP is risking our rights if PAS really implement their Hudud Law and Islamic state. Then we will not face race discrimination but to another level of discrimination. Violation and discrimination of religion. DAP should make sure that they are able to control this PAS 100% to save guard our multicultural and ethnics society. They Karpal Singh say Langkah mayat saya duly might have been long gone. Now also separuh mati already. But of all the DAP politicians my salute goes to Karpal Singh.

  4. Abu Bakar says:

    Although I am a Muslim, I totally disagree with giving ultimate powers to the mufti and fatwa committee in deciding on the state Fatwa. It has portrayed the religion of Islam in a wrong perspective. Islam accepts the views of others from other religious background. It does not condone actions of forcing the ideals and principles down peoples throat.

    • Fazli says:

      Are you sure “Islam accepts the views of others from other religious background.”?

      Even jakim cannot accept the view of Ayah Pin, how to listen to otehr religious groups?

      • Ustaz Zain says:

        I really love the way that muslims like Abu Bakar can so easily divorce Islam as practiced from Islam the theory. Seems to me that as Islam is a way of life then the way its practiced must be the way its taught. And certainly I dont see or hear too many muslims either lay muslims or from the clergy standing up and telling us that the way islam is practiced is not the way its taught. Muslims are only too willing to tell each other what they should be doing but seemingly quite unwilling to do anything about the abuses to your principles

  5. jackie says:

    Junior Lim talks big only. He dares not to confront the big boss – PAS.

    • shaun says:

      Lim is hiding behind the big boss

    • 大家健康 says:

      槟城在近年来给人比较干净及明亮的感觉,在同一批清洁工人的情况之下,是因为州政府“清洁”,所以才能给槟城带来更清洁的效果。

      所谓健康就是财富,而槟民联政府绝对不会允许中央政府把核电厂或稀土厂建设在槟州上,以便带给大家健康的环境。

      大家要把手中一票投给“健康”。

      • silentnomore says:

        Translated:

        “Penang gives a relatively clean and bright feel in recent years, under the same batch cleaners, because the state government “clean”, so you can bring to Penang a cleaner effect.

        The so-called health is wealth, Penang Pakatan government will never allow the central government construction of nuclear power plants or rare earth plant in Penang, in order to bring you a healthy environment.

        We take the hands of a vote for the “health”.”

        Comments:
        Comeon….Is Penang really clean.
        2. Are they really equal rights fellow in taking care of medium and lower ends, as opposed of taking only the wealthy ones(with high end developments)
        3. So no nuke and rare earth there. How about solar waste?
        4. And we really satu bangsa when so much cloaking under mother tonque? Lets be satu bangsa, satu bahasa

  6. awkward moment says:

    In such compromising situations, of coz lim prefers to stay mum to avoid hurting their marriage with pas.

  7. Ah Beng Kia says:

    DAP is impotent and a political eunuch when it comes to dealing with PAS.

  8. Kisah Benar says:

    Utusan Malaysia was found guilty of defaming Lim Guan Eng. The judge ruled that “the defendant showed selective vendetta against DAP and the plaintiff.” In honour of Guan Eng’s Utusan defamation triumph, here are nine other watershed cases that have made a dent for citizen’s rights in the face of BN’s might.

    1. Khir Toyo gets 12 months for graft, shampoo thief gets 24 months

    In December 2011, former Selangor BN Chief and Ex-Menteri Besar Dr Mohd Khir Toyo was found guilty and sentenced to 12 month’s jail for misusing his position as a public servant to obtain land at a highly reduced price.

    Khir, a dentist, and his wife Zahrah Kechik purchased two plots of land and a bungalow in Shah Alam for RM3.5 million when in fact the lots were worth RM6.5 million.

    Meanwhile, in Johor Bahru, a shampoo thief was jailed for 24 months; while a Terengganu thief who stole RM20 was sentenced to 36 months jail.

    2. Former cabinet minister charged with PKFZ scandal

    Former Transport Minister and MCA President Tun Ling Liong Sik is currently being charged for cheating in the RM1.08billion Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) scandal.

    While awaiting the verdict, to PKFZ has amassed losses of up to RM14billion and continues to be another white elephant mega project by BN.

    Several corruption cases involving BN politicians include former minister Kasitah Gaddam who was charged with corruption (he was freed without his defence being called) and former Selangor MB Harun Idris who was sentenced to jail for corruption (he was pardoned by the King).

    3. Constitutional win for UKM 4, but will it last?

    In 2010, four Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM) students were charged under the University and University Colleges Act (UUCA) for “showing support or sympathy with a political party” during the Hulu Selangor parliamentary by-election.

    The UKM 4 won a case against the government where s25 of the UUCA was declared unconstitutional, a major moral victory for the pro-student rights movement. However, the decision may yet be reversed as the BN government is appealling.

    4. Defections and drama in Perak power grab

    The people lost this one when BN’s backdoor bloodless 2009 coup toppled the democratically-elected government in Perak, and dealt a fatal blow to the democratic process in Malaysia.

    After a string of defections triggered a see-sawing majority in the State Assembly which swung from PR to BN to PR and finally BN, the court ruled to reinstate the BN government.

    The epic power-grab saga ignited a moral debate on allowing the rise and fall of a government to be determined by a few “frogs”. At the height of the crisis, polls found that if fresh elections were to be called, PR held the lead.

    5. Whose Allah is it?

    A thorny issue in multi-religious Malaysia, religious rows have oft evoked the most emotional response from citizens of various backgrounds. In 2007 The Herald, a Catholic newspaper, filed a suit against the government seeking to use the word Allah, arguing that the word should not exclusive to Islam.

    After intense public scrutiny and tense debate in the media, the court ruled in favor of The Herald. The ruling emphasized that use of the “Allah” by Christians is protected by the constitution as long as it is not used to proselytize Muslims.

    6. Mongolian murder mystery

    This sensational story of corruption, murder and sex seemed more fitting for a blockbuster novel than the purchase of Scorpene submarines by the Ministry of Defence.

    Abdul Razak Baginda (political advisor to then-Defence Minister Najib Razak) and three members of the Unit Tindakan Khas (the Malaysian Police Special Action Force) were charged with the murder of Mongolian model Altantuya Sharibuu, a translator hired to negotiate the submarine purchase.

    Two of the UTK officers were also Najib’s bodyguards. Razak Baginda was acquitted while the other two were sent to the gallows.

    7. Orang Asli suffering compensated

    The livelihood of indigenous tribes has often been neglected in the wake of development. In 1995, the BN State government of Selangor forcibly acquired 38 acres of ancestral land from 23 families belonging to indigenous Temuan tribe, for the construction of a highway.

    Initially, the government only compensated the displaced Temuan tribes for their houses and crops. In 2002, Sagong Bin Tasi and other affected Temuan Orang Aslis won a landmark victory and were awarded compensation for their land and damages for trespassing.

    8. Anwar’s black eye incident

    In the tumultuous days following Anwar Ibrahim’s 1998 sacking, a shocked nation watched as the sacked former Deputy Premier appeared in court with a black eye. A photo of the injured Anwar with one hand raised became a symbol of political opposition in many reformasi posters.

    A Royal Commission was convened where former Inspector General of Police, Tan Sri Rahim Noor admitted beating Anwar. Rahim was charged for the assault, he was given a two-month prison sentence and fined 2,000 ringgit.

    9. “Cant understand English” Selangor MB arrested with RM3.8million in his hands

    What is it with former Selangor MBs? In 1997, Tan Sri Muhammad bin Muhammad Taib, the then-MB of Selangor, was detained in an Australian airport with a suitcase stuffed with RM3.8mil. His absurd defence? That he did not understand English and therefore did not understand the currency regulations. He was charged but found not guilty.

    • silentnomore says:

      This is where the troopers display their bullets/ammunition list

      We do not talk about the past sins and counter attack with fresh blows of sins

      Its all about the rakyat.
      and how the rakyat and their children will benefit in the present and future, short and long term from good policy management and who else has the best track record of sharing/compromise/bravery other than BN(Pakatan sudah few years sudah ada macam macam – asyik cakap benda lepas dan tak buat yang positive untuk masa depan. Kutuk2 tapi buat tak tau/mau. Pasal air yang begitu penting pun nak main main jadikan bahan caturan politik)

    • Too Kia says:

      We should have more expose from Kisah Benar!!!

  9. Adam says:

    Typical LGE, Calling The MCA UMNO’s stooges, yet when PAS did something that runs contrary to the ‘principles’ of the DAP, he becomes silent. Or maybe DAP’s ‘principles’ now are namely, to get to Putrajaya and form the government so that they get a share of the bounty.

  10. Profesor KKK says:

    Barisan Nasional government has present amendments to the Criminal Procedure Code to empower the police to intercept postal articles, communications and to enter premises to install devices to intercept and to record the communication secretly. The Barisan Nasional government is bringing Malaysia back to the ‘terror’ era of the communist Soviet Union and the Communist China of the 60s and the 70s.

    • ray says:

      profk3

      The mighty first world USA set the precedent in PRESENT time.

      The purpose of the USA PATRIOT Act is to deter and punish terrorist acts in the United States and around the world, to enhance law enforcement investigatory tools, and other purposes, some of which include:

      To strengthen U.S. measures to prevent, detect and prosecute international money laundering and financing of terrorism;
      To subject to special scrutiny foreign jurisdictions, foreign financial institutions, and classes of international transactions or types of accounts that are susceptible to criminal abuse;
      To require all appropriate elements of the financial services industry to report potential money laundering;
      To strengthen measures to prevent use of the U.S. financial system for personal gain by corrupt foreign officials and facilitate repatriation of stolen assets to the citizens of countries to whom such assets belong.

      http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/patriot/

    • Too Bak Kia says:

      Barisan Nasional is using three powerful and distinct methods to win the forthcoming 13th general election and their methods can be grouped into three main categories, namely:

      1. Population re-engineering (6P for instant MyKad –> dubious voters)
      2. Propaganda to brainwash the citizens (via Utusan, BTN, this website); and
      3. Philosophy of Malay Supremacy and 1Malaysia.

  11. big dog says:

    The very fact that najib is not appointing a Umno man to lead BN in Penang is a sign that Umno is conceding defeat.

    • big dog says:

      I must also add taht all the unhappy malays will think twice of even giving UMNO the 11 seats won before in 2008. What logic is NAJIB using appoint some not from Penang that too Gen Sec not even the chief of Gerakan. Najib had not charge base on current time which He himself had proclaims in many ceramahs of winnable seats. He may think by doing so the chinese will return to the fold. but the Chinese want a non corrupt regime which can improve their business without much Redtapes. It is finish for BN as far as Penang is concerned.

    • shukri says:

      How come Perkasa and UMNO are allowing non-Malays to be state BN chief? Either they don’t have the balls to go against it or they are just practising double standards when accusing Pakatan as pro Chinese.

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